My guest for this episode is Pastor Kathleen Panning.

Kathleen earned her Master of Divinity Degree from Luther Seminary in St. Paul, MN.  She was ordained as a pastor in the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America in 1980. She has served congregations in rural and urban settings, ranging in size from 150 – 6000+ members. Kathleen has trained as a mentor and coach and supervised seminary students for 14 years.

After retiring from parish ministry in 2014 she became the first clergy person to become a Fascinate® Certified Advisor in 2014. In 2017 she began hosting “Aflame Ministry,” an interfaith internet radio show on the BBM Global Network, Apple Podcast and several other podcast platforms.

In addition to continuing to host her radio show, Kathleen uses the How To Fascinate® material with faith leaders and their leadership boards to help them improve communication and work together as a team.

Kathleen and her husband, who is also a pastor, live in South Carolina. Her hobbies include walking her 2 dogs and gardening.

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